A Dismaying Vision (Daniel 7-8)

We have seen that Daniel had been given great wisdom and insight so as to be able to interpret the dreams of kings and to read the divine handwriting on the wall. He was also given visionary dreams of his own (Daniel 7:1-14, 8:1-14) – and he was unable to understand what they meant (7:15-22, 8:15-17). Even with a heavenly attendant, or indeed the angel Gabriel, explaining the meaning of these dreams, Daniel’s conclusion was still that he “was dismayed by the vision and did not understand it” (8:27).

Yet there are those who imagine that the clues here and elsewhere in scripture are sufficient that they have indeed understood the chronology of the events at the end of time, and know how all will be accomplished. To make such bold claims seems unwise: Daniel’s frank admission that he did not understand should at least prompt us toward humility, making us cautious to suppose that, by arranging selected verses in some clever pattern, we can understand God’s timetable better than the prophet could, even though he had the help of angelic interpreters.

At the same time it will not do simply to ignore or dismiss these texts. We ought to allow our hearts to be moved by the description of the Ancient of Days, seated on a throne, ruling over a court established for judgment, with record books opened (7:9-10). And by the description of the Son of Man, coming with the clouds of heaven, “given dominion and glory and kingship, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him” (7:13-14).

Much of this vision, in much the same wording, is taken up by John in the book of Revelation, where he describes in further detail the everlasting kingdom of the Son of Man, ransoming souls “from every tribe and language and people and nation,” and receiving “power and wealth and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing” (Revelation 5:9, 12). Perhaps, then, we can learn to be content to admit that we do not know all the details of what the future holds, and simply be glad that as we gather from all peoples, nations, and languages, we can know and worship the one who holds the future.

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But about that day or hour no one knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but only the Father. Beware, keep alert, for you do not know when the time will come (Mark 13:32-33).
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Ancient of Days, we trust in you, and in the Son of Man to whom you give dominion and glory and kingship. So much of this world passes away: but your dominion is everlasting, and your kingship shall never be destroyed. All our hope is set in you!

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3 responses to “A Dismaying Vision (Daniel 7-8)”

  1. One of the thoughts I have been having (for a book which will probably never be written – On What Too Many Christians, and others, Neglect, Ignore, or Never Knew about the Bible) is the difference between Christ’s dominion, and what we understand as domination. I did a sermon once on this, reminding myself and the congregation, that Lord in Latin in Domino, from which we derive both dominion and domination. Unfortunately, too often we use our understanding of domination when we equate Christ’s dominion of all creation with certainty and forcible control. Christ’s dominion of all creation, as revealed in the life of Jesus Christ, is about servitude, not certitude; about concern for, not control over. I love your explanation of Daniel’s confusion and frustration. It is a clear message to us about our tendency to seek certitude rather than trust. thanks again for jogging my imagination!

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    1. For a long time, people have been seeking for a formula of words that they can memorize and thereby never be wrong. Yet no matter how ‘certain’ we are, frail creatures like us will never in this world attain infallibility. There are so many things I have known with such clarity, and then it turns out that I’m mistaken. Our best stance is humility, bravely offering our best insights, always recognizing that we’re going to be wrong again. Our best science, across all the fields, is a better approximation than what we ever figured out before: and it awaits better answers from future generations.

      If you write that book, I will look forward to reading it …

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      1. Thanks, Jay! The wise person is willing to recognize when he or she has been wrong. The evidence of mistaken thoughts is before each of us, but too many of us (including too many times I have done this) hold to what we have been taught because we are afraid of not being sure, or we are afraid of having our trust in the wisdom of those who taught us being shaken. Trusting God to see us through our mistakes is the only certainty I think we can have, even when this means God allows us to see and experience the consequences of mistakes we have made, or that others have made.

        My wise father, who was in many ways fairly conservative, once asked me if my faith in Christ would dissolve if the Bible should go away. He was making the point that our faith resides in our relationship with the living Christ and that the Bible was the pathfinder, but not the ultimate relationship. That said, he was a firm advocate of reading and interpreting the Bible!

        I continue to take notes for that elusive book, including saving a number of your articles. If I do write it, I will, of course, credit you and all other sources!

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